Likenesses of some governments or something... don't ask me

Brave New World and Nineteen Eighty Fo
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• Both governments use some form of government control. In 1984, they monitor everybody almost all the time and even get inside their heads by listening to their thoughts. In Brave New World, they condition everybody to act a certain way so that they are always happy and are easy to control
• Work is something that everybody values. In Brave New world, everybody is conditioned to like what they do and find enjoyment out of it. In 1984, they have to work or they will be vaporized for being different or thinking about "things"
• Sex is controlled in both novels. In 1984, Big Brother is trying to stop people from having sex and enjoying it. In Brave New World, the government has removed the parts and/or gives the ladies medicines and ways not to get knocked up.
  
• Both societies discourage people interacting with each other. In 1984 you are only to be with someone if you are going to have a baby. In Brave New World, you cannot exclusively date someone.
• Rations are given in both places. Soma in Brave New World and Chocolates in 1984

This is great. we are out in eight!

BNW in a cage fight with US

One of the major similarity I noticed between Brave New World and the US of A was that we both have drugs. Not bad drugs, those are bad. I mean medicine that can get rid of troubles experienced by both worlds. In Brave New World, they mainly have soma and in the United States we have many many drugs. Although none of our drugs can put you on a consequence free vacation, we do have many similar! We have drugs, such as tylenol, that will get rid of your aches and pains temporarily. We have anti depression pills to help those of us that are sad. In BNW, they had to take drugs like pregnancy simulators and adrenaline simulators. We also have pills like that to help with people who have irregular amounts of that...

The next similarity was all the sex. In BNW, 8 year olds were running rampant have sex like it was nobody's business. Sex to them was just something to make them happy. Everybody was doing it with everybody else (in the same caste). Sex isn't exactly the same in the US of A, but it is still there. If you take a look at our advertisements and many of the other things we see in our day to day lives, you will still see sex. Sex is used to attract people and make people buy products. Do you think more people would watch a commercial and feel more compelled to buy something if you had a commercial with a hot sexy lady or a normal Jane just sitting there?

The last similarity that I shall point out is all the consumerism. In BNW, they are conditioned from birth that buy is the way they should do stuff. They should not simply repair it, but should throw it away and buy a completely new one. If somebody wants to make a new game, they have to use twice as many parts as a previous game used. In the United States we are also experiencing similarities. Although we are not drilled when we are in the womb, we still end up paying for stuff. It is much easier simply buying a new thing than taking the time to try and repair it yourself. Other items, such as tires, are you given a limited amount of use before it will break down. I am sure that somebody could make a tire that lasts for many years, but they won't because then once everybody has them, they will stop making money.

Conditioning^2

Lenina versus John. Round Uno!

Lenina has grown up a the "perfect" society all her life. She has grown up to think that everybody is owned by everybody. She was taught this through the use of hypnopaedia. Since she has gone through this as a child and is predestined to think a certain way automatically. Other thoughts that she is predestined to think is to take soma whenever there is a problem and to consume before repairing.

John has grown up being shunned on a reservation. He was taught to read by his mother and then continued teaching himself by reading Shakespeare. He was able to understand and relate with Shakespeare's works because he was in a kinda tragedy himself. His mother would tell him about the perfect world. All the views he learns from his reading conflict with those of told to him by his mother.

Their views about love and relationships conflict with each other. Due to Lenina's conditioning, she is unable to understand what John is talking about. John has learned views from Shakespeare and thinks Lenina's views are crazy.

Brave New World

The major connection between Brave New World and Utopia is that they are both a Utopian society in someway. In both, everybody owns everything and each other. Because of this and other various, both societies are content and do not question their society.

One thing that I like in Brave New World is the ignorance. The people are purposefully made to not question or see anything wrong with the way they live, and they are perfectly content with what they have and what they do. The saying ignorance is bliss certainly holds true here.

That is also one of the things that troubles me with this book. Instead of being naturally made ignorant, they people have automatically made that way without their consent. The government is looking out for the whole and not the individual in this way.

Utopia numero tres

Here it goes again..

They do not take prisoners of war. Only people who are previously criminals are considered as slaves.

I agree with this. Just because you failed at dominating another country, doesn't mean you should be owned by them..

The sick are kept isolated and comfortable. They are allowed to commit suicide.

Keeping them isolated is a good idea in theory..but some of the best treatments are mental and having your family there can really help.

Girls have to be 18 and men have to be 22 before they are allowed to marry. They are not allowed to fall in love before that age, or they will not be allowed to marry at all.

This makes sense. It would help reduce the amount of people who are not ready for a family.

A bride and groom have to see each other naked before they get married.

This is good since you shouldn't get married and then get surprised. They know what they are getting into.

If a divorce occurs, the innocent one is allowed to remarry, while the guilty party and mistress/pimp become slaves

This allows the innocent to not suffer for the other's actions.

Lawyers are liars and therefor not used.

This gives people an opportunity to defend themselves.

They are against war.

This prevents people from being violent and wanting to take things by force.

They kill as little as possible after they get a victory in a war.

Keeping the enemy from getting mad at you is always a good policy.

The Utopians are allowed to believe in whatever they choose to.

Forced religion rarely works..

If they were sad when the died, they will mourn. If they were happy when they died, they will sing and dance.

As long as they are able to do the singing and dancing, it is okay with me

Utopia book numero dos

and once again.. here I go..

The King seperated himself from the rest of the continent and is now has a perfect society.

Isolation doesn't always lead to perfection. Soon you can get lost and get in deeper trouble than you would otherwise.

They change husbands every year and they switch between country and city lives

They won't get stuck in something they don't like, but they will lose it if they like it.

They own no property and are allowed to go freely between houses. They shift houses Every ten years.

The makes everybody equal. Communism anyone?

30 Families choose a new magistrate every year. Those 200 magistrates choose a new prince who serves a life term.

This is a conglomeration of democracy and monarchy. I like it except the life term. Power corrupts.

Everybody knows everything about argriculture plus another trade. Everybody wears the same clothes except for small differences that distinguish married and unmarried and male and female.

This gets rid of everybody's creativity.

They work for 6 hours a day. 3 of them are dinner and the other 3 are after dinner. Supper is at 8. Then they sleep for 8 hours.

Doin the same thing everyday also gets rid of creativity.

No city may contain more than 6000 familes. Each family has to have between 10 and 16 people. Families with extra children will give them to a less fruitful family.

This is horrible. Families have to be broken up! Also, what happens when you run out of land to make new cities?

To visit another town, a person must obtain leave from the syphogrant and get a passport from the Prince. If person is caught twice without a passport, they are condemned to slavery.

I don't know what I think about this. It depends on how easy/hard it is to get a passport...

The chief pleasure to the body is health. It gives them desire to have them eat and drink and take part in other delights of staying healthy.

Makes sense. I like eating..

Utopia book numero uno

Here goes nothing...

1. Killing thieves does not work and is not good for the public.
1. Theft is not severe enough to be punished by death. The king need to make people not want to break the law in the first place
2. Having idle soldiers is a waste.
1. Resources could be spent on something else and having a large army increases crime.
3. The king needs to ban gabling and rebuild villages destroyed by it, as well as help rebuild agriculture in the areas.
1. I do not think he should outlaw gambling, but he needs to rebuild villages and help with agriculture
4. Thieves should be made into slaves for the person that catches them.
1. Having slaves in a free society causes problems for the whole freedom aspect.
5. The king should focus on improving what he has and not try expanding it.
1. The king should know what he has and should focus on make it better.
6. A perfect society is for all and not just for one.
1. A utopia applies to the whole society.

hope I did this right...


as a distraction...